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Epi 55:

Why “Constructive Criticism” & Feedback Feel Like a Personal Attack (& Fuels Stress, Overthinking, & People-Pleasing)

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Have you ever had a client say “no” to your recommendation, received constructive criticism, or been left out of something, and suddenly your whole mood (or week) is wrecked? 😅

That kind of intense reaction doesn’t mean you’re “too sensitive.” It might actually be a brain-based pattern that’s incredibly common in high-achieving humans, neurodivergent and neurotypical people (yes, even the ones who look like they have it all together 👀).

In this episode, we get into what’s really going on, why veterinary professionals are especially prone to it, and how it shows up in real-life situations.

We also dive into how this pattern fuels chronic stress, burnout, people-pleasing, and weak boundaries… and what to do about it.

You’ll learn practical, neuroscience-informed tools to interrupt the spiral and respond with clarity instead of overthinking everything.

If you’ve ever replayed a conversation 47 times or taken feedback way too personally…

You have to listen to this juicy episode!

 

What You'll Learn In This Episode:

  • 00:00:00 – What rejection sensitive dysphoria is and why your reactions feel so intense

  • 00:01:00 – Why RSD is not a personality flaw, but a brain-based processing pattern

  • 00:03:00 – Why traditional diagnostic criteria often miss real-world veterinary stressors

  • 00:05:00 – How hypervigilance and “reading the room” amplify perceived rejection

  • 00:06:30 – Real-life examples of RSD in vet med (clients declining care, social situations, feedback)

  • 00:09:00 – The role of the amygdala and why your brain prioritizes negative experiences

  • 00:11:30 – How past experiences reinforce faster, stronger emotional reactions

  • 00:13:00 – The link between RSD, masking, people-pleasing, and overexplaining

  • 00:16:00 – Why overexplaining backfires—and what to do instead

  • 00:20:00 – How burnout, chronic stress, and perfectionism make RSD worse

  • 00:22:00 – The neuroscience behind emotional regulation (amygdala vs. prefrontal cortex)

  • 00:24:00 – The first step to breaking the cycle: questioning your brain’s story

  • 00:25:00 – How to use clarifying questions to stop spiraling

  • 00:27:00 – Why your brain jumps to worst-case scenarios—and how to interrupt it

  • 00:28:30 – The deeper root causes of RSD and how they develop over time

  • 00:29:30 – How to begin healing RSD at both the surface and subconscious levels

 

Key Takeaways

    • Rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD) is not a personality flaw...it’s how your brain processes perceived rejection

    • Veterinary medicine amplifies RSD due to high stakes, constant feedback, and emotional intensity

    • Your brain is wired to prioritize negative experiences, making even neutral situations feel threatening

    • Patterns like people-pleasing, overexplaining, and avoidance are often protective responses to RSD

    • The key to change is twofold:

      • Interrupt the thought pattern in real time

      • Address the deeper root causes driving it

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A Truth You Need to Hear:

"Just because it feels like rejection… doesn’t mean it is. And even when it is, it doesn’t define you."

 

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S2 Epi 55 Transcript:

Why “Constructive Criticism” & Feedback Feel Like a Personal Attack (& Fuels Stress, Overthinking, & People-Pleasing)

 

[00:00:00] (Emotional reactions to rejection and episode setup)

Have you ever felt a strong emotional reaction when a client tells you no, you're given some sort of feedback or quote unquote, constructive criticism, or maybe you got left out of a group outing? Yeah. That feeling of rejection might not just be quote unquote, you're sensitive. You may have rejection sensitive dysphoria.

What the hell is it? We're gonna get into that in this episode as well as what you need to overcome it. So come on in and join us.

[00:01:00] (What this is, brain-based response not a personality flaw, neurodivergence)

Welcome back to another episode of Stop the Burnout. Today we're talking about something that I know all of you have dealt with yourself and probably know other people that have as well. And what that is rejection, but not just regular rejection. This is rejection on like a whole different level that isn't.

A personality flaw. This is actually our brain and how we process information. So what that's called is rejection sensitive dysphoria. What the hell is that? That is something where we have these intense emotional responses to perceived either like rejection or criticism or some sort of disapproval. And the crazy part is if someone else were to be present for.

That conversation, they very well may not have interpreted that situation or experience as being rejection. In other words, it's in and of ourselves and how we process stuff, not the fact that someone's actually being rude or rejecting us. And we see this is very, very common with neurodivergent individuals, especially those that have a DHD, but it is not a specifically two neurodivergent individuals.

So those who are neurotypical can still experience this too. And rejection sensitive dysphoria is not a. Official diagnosis, like you won't find it in the DSM. Personal side note, I don't think the DSM is up to speed with 2026 and the complexities that we deal with and definitely not up to speed with veterinary medicine.

[00:04:00] (DSM limitations, PTSD in vet med, validating the experience)

But anyway, that's an aside. And I say that because if you look at the criteria for things like A DHD and autism, I know when I was going through my assessment, I'm like, these are so rigid and so antiquated, and this is like the holy grail that we base stuff off of. Also, I was diagnosed with PTSD from work.

It's great, isn't it? But it was interesting because I had a psychologist tell me, well. If you look at all the criteria for PTSD, and if anyone has experienced that, you know it, it's awful. But the criteria are crazy things like, have you experienced someone die in front of you? Have you experienced being close to death or you are experiencing like all these crazy things?

And I'm like, no, but everything she was saying was like a person. So she's like, yeah, so like technically you don't have the criteria for it. And I looked at her and I said, what's a criteria for actually euthanizing a living creature or being present for hundreds and thousands of animals that I've seen that are suffering?

And she just looked at me like. Oh. She was speechless because she's like, you're a hundred percent right. I also got the official diagnosis for that from another psychologist. So that's just for me to say that this rejection sensitive dysphoria is like a real thing, right? Just because it's not an official diagnosis, that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

It doesn't mean that it's not real and it can affect our lives, and so that's what I want you to take away from that, but.

[00:05:30] (Why it feels so real, body-based response, hypervigilance)

This is something that it's not a like big cognitive thought process. In other words, it's very much a fast automatic like body-based response. It's not something that our logical brain can like rationalize because there's a part of us that really thinks that whatever we just experience that we feel like is rejection is so real.

So it can be definitely. A different way that we experience stress, frustration, social feedback too, which is really challenging because if you are neurodivergent, especially if you have autism, sometimes our means of communication are challenging to begin with, and those who.

Are already challenged with like trying to read the room or being like hyper-focused on people and situations. We are just that much more amped up, if you will, to. Situations. So like it makes us more prone, I would say, in a way to experience rejection sensitive dysphoria because we're reading people's energies and reactions and interactions to like the N degree, right? Like we're just really focusing on that and we do it.

I know I do it now without even thinking, but I obviously at some point it was like a learned behavior too. But now it's, it's that idea of like scanning your environment. Being hypervigilant for someone's tone that's off or something. Someone said that seemed a little bit different than what they would normally respond with.

It's all those things that will Absolutely, feed into what this is the hard part too, is that the things that we experience when we say, oh, this is like, we feel like we're being rejected. Aren't things that are necessarily negative, and that doesn't mean that someone is truly rejecting us.

They could be, but it's not always the case.

[00:07:00] (Real-life examples in vet med and social situations)

So some great examples are things like, I know when I was first starting out in practice and you know, you're just trying to like get your feet about you and try to, feel like you're maybe know something right? And kind of get your shit together. And you know, I'd have sick pets and I would.

Have my technicians go over an estimate for, you know, workup and then the client's like, no, I don't wanna do that. And I, I remember going back when I learned about rejection sensitive dysphoria, 'cause I didn't know this until a few years ago. I'm like, oh, that is like, I remember thinking, not like, oh, I'm being rejected.

I remember being like, what? Fuck you then. Like that type of feeling when someone doesn't wanna go through with my. Treatment plan or doesn't wanna take your recommendations. And another example too is maybe you are, part of a a clinic and you walk back into the treatment area and people are talking about, you know, what they did this past weekend and there was a group of people that went out, but you never got invited.

You know, it's like things like that. No, granted, yeah. That's not okay.

[00:08:00] (Triggers, exaggerated responses, what’s “normal”)

But you, are we having like a really exaggerated response like. I remember, I think it was around the holidays, I saw someone's post on social media and they were saying how they had, you know, it was the holidays, so, so many vet clinics, right? We get candies and cookies and chocolate and all the things, and they brought in like these home baked cookies or something, and no one even.

I think they, I don't know if they like handed them out or I don't know. But no one said thank you. No one was like, happy that someone brought it in and it was interesting 'cause this poor person was like, spiraling. And I'm like, oh, this is a great example of, it, it picks right at the wounds that we have and the triggers that we have.

And you're okay to, to feel, I guess the question is though. What is normal, right?

[00:09:00] (Amygdala sensitivity, negative bias, emotional processing)

The tough part about RSD is that for people that have A DHD are amygdalas, right? So the fight or flight part of our brain that is more overreactive, just on a regular day, is more a sensi, excuse me, is more sensitive to rejection.

And the hard part though is it's now less sensitive to positive things. So things that are even neutral, we take as negative and things that are positive. We don't put as much weight into that. And I think that could be so many things in, in veterinary medicine.

[00:10:00] (Overanalyzing social interactions, texting example, spiraling thoughts)

Another example too is like in our personal lives, if you've ever, maybe you've been texting a friend and you ask them to like, hang out this weekend or go to dinner, and they're like, you know, they just have a very different response or they're just, their response is, okay.

Or something that. You feel like is different than what their norm would be. Then we spiral, right? Oh my God, are they mad at me? Maybe I shouldn't have asked them that. Maybe I said something wrong last time we hung out and they don't wanna hang out. You know, like we just overanalyze and it's that overanalyzing that can be so debilitating, right?

[00:10:45] (Constructive criticism triggers, internal reactions)

And. Even constructive criticism, which when I learned about RSD, I was like, uh, that tracks because I fucking hate constructive criticism. Like I always took it like, okay, yes, this is what growing and learning and adulting in your career looks like, right? But I was always like in my mind fuck you.

Like I did it this way 'cause of this. Or you could have said this different to me.

[00:11:00] (Constructive criticism triggers, early career challenges, emotional response)

Right. And then I see other people take constructive criticism, like, okay, yeah, that looks good, and then moving on. So I think the constructive criticism aspect can really hit home. And that can be really challenging too. If you are newer in your career, maybe you're a technician or you're a new doctor and you know you're constantly needing Right.

Some of that feedback because then, you know, but it's also can be so difficult to experience that. And hear those things. So that's, that's another great example, the shitty part about this. And just so you know, we're gonna go through what this is, how it looks like, but also how do we move out of it too?

[00:12:00] (Reinforcement loop, brain priming, faster emotional reactions)

So we'll get through everything. The past ex, so your past experiences also reinforce this loop. So the stronger. That you feel something or rejection when it happens next time, because your amygdala is already like primed. And our brain for simplicity likes to do things faster and with less effort. So it thinks, okay, I had this experience, I'm gonna log this so next time something similar happens, I will have.

The same response and faster. Well, shit, what happens is that next time you have a similar experience, so maybe you got constructive criticism, okay, whatever life goes on, and then next time you're getting more constructive criticism, maybe it's about the same thing or something similar, you instantly, go to that feeling of rejection, maybe anger, irritability.

And it go, you go there faster and it's more intense because your brain's like, we've already been here before. We know what this is gonna look and feel like. So we're just gonna get to the point. So like your brain is just trying to do it quicker and faster, although this is not helpful and it reinforces that loop, you know, that we continue to then get more primed, a lot faster.

[00:13:00] (Snowball effect, worsening cycle, avoidance and withdrawal behaviors)

We experience something similar and like, so it's just, it just gets worse. Right? Just, um. Is like a snowball effect of every time. The other things too is that when we experience rejection sensitive dysphoria, a lot of times that can lead us to having like withdrawal or you know, some sort of social avoidance, right?

Because if we think that there's gonna be some sort of rejection, we'll just avoid whatever that is. Be like dating, right? Maybe you're like, well that didn't feel great, so I'm just gonna avoid it all together. It's a good example and it can certainly improve, it causes disruption in your relationships and just in functioning, right?

In general.

[00:14:00] (Masking, loss of authenticity, people-pleasing behaviors)

So what happens, I think this is interesting as a result, is that many times we have masking, which we see that with Neurodivergence a lot, especially autistics. What we end up doing is we confine, that's not the word I'm looking for. We conform to some of the social norms and. We end up not being our true selves because it seems like it wasn't accepted, therefore rejected.

So we end up masking our true selves. And then what I think the fucked up part of this is that a lot of times I know for myself now looking back when I would mask I would, a lot of times that resulted in people pleasing behavior.

[00:15:00] (People-pleasing in vet med, compromising needs and boundaries)

So maybe a client was a little like. Oh, I caught their tone. They were a little upset or something. So then I'm like, well, that's uncomfortable. So then I try to like smooth things over, but I really end up people pleasing, like, oh, you, you know, you wanted to do this and you know, you didn't wanna do this test and you just wanna try this medicine, obviously within reason. Okay, sure.

Instead of like. Maybe I had the conversation about the contraindication, not contraindications, the potential side effects, but I felt more pushed to be like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just try that thing.

Because now I'm people pleasing. I'm not being authentic to myself. I'm not taking care of my own needs, and in that case, my needs being. Standing up for myself and my license, right?

[00:16:00] (Overexplaining patterns, communication breakdown, self-awareness)

So we have people pleasing behaviors. The other thing that I see so much in Vet Med and I, I think there's, there's a variety of reasons of why we do this, but over explaining, oh my God, I did this so much and it is a tough habit to break.

I still catch myself at times, but. I always have to say, like, if you feel like you're in a conversation with someone and you're just continuing to say the same thing just in a different way and you're not getting that desired result from the person, you know, take a step back for a second.

And I, I always tell

[00:16:00] (Overexplaining to be understood vs educating, client communication breakdown)

my coaching clients like, Hey, if you are.

Explaining something with the intention of getting someone to understand you very well may be disappointed. So how this comes into play, like in clinical practice that I see it so much is maybe a client declines your recommendations, and so then we have that feeling of rejection, but obviously maybe the pet really needs it.

Maybe the pet's really sick. And then we go into explain, Hey, I think your pet, I dunno, for example, has a pyometra, right? I am really concerned. I, highly recommend to do this blood test and this x-ray or ultrasound. And then you go into like over explaining, so you've already talked about it, but now you're like going back over why you need it for the 10th time and then.

[00:17:00] (Overexplaining backfires, client reactions, understanding vs convincing)

Saying it again, right? Like two, not two, but maybe 3, 4, 5 times. And what I see happen is either one clients are like, okay, I. Whatever, like, just get me the fuck outta here. I understand my pet sick, I'm gonna go to the other clinic and get it worked up there. Because what happens with that overexplaining is are we trying to overexplain to get them to understand or are we trying to overexplain to educate them?

Those are two different things because when we overexplain to get something to understand. There is a strong possibility that either they don't want to understand or they understand, but they don't care and they still don't wanna do the thing that you're recommending. And that comes from that really like needy type of energy and the feeling of like, I hate when I.

[00:18:00] (Energy in communication, pushiness vs education, client perception)

I see people and they're having conversations with clients like, your pet's gonna die and this and that, and that very well might be the case, right? But take some of that like pushiness off, and when we approach it with the energy of, Hey, I'm gonna give you the information you need for you to make the decision, and then we'll go from there because.

You know, there's so many factors that we are not aware of, right? Sometimes even financial factors we're not aware of, or the person's not letting us know, or there's, they feel like rejected, right? They're like, oh my God, they think I'm a bad pet owner. Like, I'll get. I'll get care for my pet, but I don't like these people.

I'm gonna go someplace else. Like it's things like that. I've definitely done that. Not with my pets, like with non-life threatening things, but I'm like, I don't like this energy. I hate being pushed. I realize I need to do this thing, but I'm not gonna get it done here. In fact, I think I did that with my car.

It just came to my mind.

[00:19:00] (Understanding vs educating, client decision-making, communication approach)

So it's that overexplaining because if we overexplain to get someone to understand and then do what we want. That there's many things that need to happen, right? Because I'm sure that we've all met people. I feel like I met a lot of people doing ER, that I'm like, these fucking people understand.

They just don't wanna do it. Or they're mad or they're whatever. Right? And if you can have a conversation about that, then great. Like, Hey, I understand you wanna do the best for your pet. And it's really fucking annoying, frustrating that you're in this boat, totally get it. You know, have like a frank conversation.

The other way of doing that is educate them. Hey, your pet has a omera or strongly suspect. I highly recommend these tests because X, Y, and z. I'm not here to scare you. I just want you to have that information and I totally understand. If that's not something you can do now, but I need to know that so that way we can.

Create and advise a plan of what to do next, right? That has a different energy to it, and I think that's why some people get the feeling like vets are only in it for the money because we're in that convincing energy When you're in the educating.

[00:20:00] (Overexplaining patterns, people-pleasing, rejection-driven behavior)

Now, I totally get the idea that we obviously want the best for the pets and we wanna educate people so they make the right decision. But when we educate people to convince them. Then it fails. So over explaining. Is something that I think we tend to do. We also tend to do it because we don't wanna be rejected, but in this case, like we know what's best for the pet and then we get frustrated right when the client doesn't do it.

So sometimes we can then shutting down. We can people please. That's the other thing, like I mentioned that, that I see a lot, and it's just that fear of rejection and this, you know, it does go a lot deeper, which we'll talk about.

[00:21:00] (Burnout, perfectionism, stress sensitivity, high-stakes environment)

The things though that make rejection sensitive dysphoria worse are things like being in burnout or chronic stress or those perfectionist tendencies, right? If you're, if you think that you did something a hundred percent perfect, and then here is someone saying, well, you could have done this better, right? The constructive criticism like that will cause you to spiral and really feel rejected.

We do the people pleasing and a lot of times too if, if we don't have a lot of recovery time between stressors, so maybe work is really stressful, maybe your personal life is really stressful and there's just no break, then that rejection sensitive dysphoria feels a lot worse.

Other things that can make it feel worse are obviously increased stress, but when we have like a high stakes environment hello veterinary medicine.

[00:21:30] (High-stakes environments, emotional intensity, neurodivergence impact)

And a lot of times we see this because when there's a lot of high stakes, there's can be a lot of emotion there. And in our neurodivergence, especially A DHD, when we are, we already know that amygdala, right.

[00:22:00] (Amygdala vs prefrontal cortex, stress and emotional regulation)

Is always amped up that part of our brain that's in fight or flight or recognizing fight or flight or fears or threats. When that is elevated, our prefrontal cortex, that's the rational part of our brain that is responsible for things like working memory organization, emotional regulation, that prefrontal cortex goes offline or is less accessible so we know more stress.

Less emotional regulation because our amygdala is more fired up. So it makes that rejection sensitive dysphoria so much worse. So with all of that, you can see how some, something can go from stressful to like over the top and obviously really, really painful.

[00:23:00] (Understanding the pattern, perception differences, real-world example)

So how the hell did we get over this?

Okay, well, first of all. We often know that once we learn about this, like, oh shit, I've probably been dealing with this for most of my life, or at least a good portion of it because we do know Neurotypicals can have this, and again, it's not a diagnosis, but we can see how certain people can experience the world more sensitively.

And it's not that you're more sensitive, it's literally just how your brain is processing the information. And I, I share this with people because you can have, two doctors work in the same environment and see very similar, if not the same appointments, or be in the same room and have a very different response.

So what just came to mind for me is like when you are first out in your career. Or maybe you're like in your fourth year, you're doing a preceptorship or externship. And I remember like I would be in exam rooms just kind of being a fly on the wall and listening to the doctor talk and, and I'm thinking in my mind like, well, that client was such a bitch or whatever, right?

And then you come out and you're kind of debriefing and the doctor seems like unfazed by that conversation that was just had. And I was like, whoa. I took that as like they were being a bitch. Now granted, there's other nuances of that, but you can see how the information didn't change. It was how we perceived it and how our brain processes that as more of a threat.

[00:24:00] (How to start changing the pattern, questioning thoughts)

So how do we solve this? Again, it's not gonna happen overnight because we've been doing this our whole lives. The first thing I tell people is when you think you, there's an experience that you have, and then your first thought is that feeling of rejection. Like, maybe it's fuck them. Or maybe it's, um, God, I don't know what a bitch.

Or another one, like if you're feeling rejected, is like, oh my God, I can't fucking do anything. Right? Eight, we have to ask ourselves. The first thing is, is this true? In other words, whatever story your brain is telling you. Okay, is this actually true? Do I have something to back this up? Or is this how I'm perceiving this experience?

And it's not wrong if you're perceiving it a certain way, but we just wanna show our brain that, Hey, you know, even though we're feeling this thing so intensely and so strongly, this might not be as awful as we're making it out to be.

[00:25:00] (Reframing thoughts, asking better questions)

So. Number one, is this true? The next thing is, and I just had a post on social media not that long ago about this, but I love asking clarifying questions. So this is something that is, seems really simple, but it's very underrated because a lot of times we can misinterpret social cues, especially if you're neurodivergent or.

We just like misunderstand people and what they mean. So maybe your friend texts back one or two word answers clarifying question could be like, Hey, are you okay? Is everything okay? Instead of like spiraling into X, Y, and Z.

[00:26:00] (Using clarifying questions in vet med, reducing assumptions)

Or if that client again was like, no, I don't wanna do these treatments, and then you go back in, you're like, okay, I understand you don't wanna do these treatments. Like what's going on? Is this, is there financial constraints is like, I wanna help you find the best decision for your pet, whether that's here with us or at another hospital.

You know, like that just disarms people. And it gives you more information because if I didn't go back in that room and have that conversation, maybe I would've carried on the rest of my day thinking I'm an idiot. PE clients don't like me, especially if you're a newer doctor. Clients don't like me.

I'm not good at this job. Who put me in this role? Like all the imposter, all those things come up. So clarifying questions is hugely important. And you know what? Maybe worst case scenario, they're like, yeah, I don't like you. Oh shit. Okay, so there's rejection. That's okay. We now know, right? We want to show our brain evidence.

[00:27:00] (Reframing thoughts, evidence-based thinking, reducing negative bias)

neutral situations or even positive situations or experiences that we're taking as negative. We wanna change that around. So to reframe number one, is this true? Do I actually have facts to back up what I'm thinking? Like true solid fucking facts, whether that's something people actually said, like words.

What they did. Like they didn't meet you for dinner or they said, no, I don't wanna go to dinner with you. Right. Like actual solid evidence. And then what will happen hopefully over time is we experience situations but we don't experience them as intensely or experience them in a way that we immediately go to like worst case scenario.

[00:28:00] (Hypervigilance, anxiety, high-stakes vet med environment)

And the really crappy part about this I think is in Vet Med, we. Have. Situations that do go to shit and it can become life or death. And so our brain says, well, if we're hypervigilant and we try to detect these things before they happen, or before someone rejects, rejects us or doesn't like us, then we can intervene and hopefully not have a bad outcome.

And that's a lot of times where anxiety comes from too. It can be really challenging.

[00:29:00] (Root causes, subconscious patterns, learned behaviors)

I think the biggest piece of this that isn't always talked about is what is the root cause of this? Because we didn't just wake up one day necessarily and decide the world is rejecting us. A lot of this, besides the fact that, being neurodivergent, brain processing differently, like looking at that very black and white, there are aspects of it where.

We have learned behaviors, right? So in our childhood we have like these root patterns I always talk about, which get lodged in our subconscious. So maybe we were rejected in a very nonchalant way and we took that as like, oh shit, that didn't feel great. So now I'm gonna be hypervigilant and try not to have these experiences.

So enter people pleasing Overexplaining. Yeah. And so then we go on with life, living life through that lens of rejection.

[00:30:00] (Healing approach, retraining patterns, addressing root causes, coaching CTA)

So when we can go in and actually heal those root causes of the rejection and when they started, then we can really change. So I think it's twofold. It's retraining our here and now, but it's also getting to the root cause of that too.

And if you know, if you're interested in being like, what the hell is getting to the root cause of that? And is that something I need? I offer a complimentary burnout breakthrough session. All you have to do is apply and you can grab the application in the show notes down here, or you can visit my website.

Thus stress and burnout coach.com/application. Fill out the application, submit it. I will take a look and send you my calendar link and we can get you scheduled. And in that call, you know, I'll get really clear on what you're experiencing. And where you wanna be and then what your next few steps are to start healing that.

And some of that could include healing those root causes of rejection or fear of disappointment, of abandonment, all so many things. And you know, if I feel like you might be a good fit, I may invite you into one of my coaching programs as well.

So if you're interested in that, again, grab the link in the show notes. You can grab it on my website, the stress and burnout coach.com/application, or you can also find me on Instagram if you don't follow me. It's at Dr. For Doctor period. Amber Parks, A-M-B-E-R. P-A-R-K-S and you can DM me the word apply, A-P-P-L-Y, and I will send you that link so you can get the application filled out, and I'd love to hear from you guys.

[00:31:00] (Outro, reflection, listener engagement)

All right. I hope this was a helpful episode also too. Feel free to send me a DM and tell me your biggest takeaway on this. Is this something that you've experienced or something that. You feel like, yeah, this is a real thing and it really does affect me. I would love to hear from you. Alright guys, I will see you on the next episode.